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ccsminer

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Posted: 04/21/2017, 11:15 PM Quote message

Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.
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Posted: 05/01/2017, 1:48 PM Quote message

It's NOT js....
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Posted: 05/01/2017, 7:36 PM Quote message

Quote MichaelMcDonald:
It's NOT js....
Please explain . . . :-)
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Posted: 05/01/2017, 11:11 PM Quote message

from what I read and understand it produces java platform applications that run as .jar

could be wrong but looks like it could require Tomcat or similar for enterprise load ... at the least looks like requires JRE for localised use.
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Posted: 05/02/2017, 5:33 AM Quote message

That is what I read as well. It looks like it has a lot of great features but would require a Java server to run the app. I'm too old to learn that trick :)

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Posted: 05/08/2017, 5:15 PM Quote message

CCS was (and still is to some extent) leaps and bounds ahead of many other PHP development platforms.

Yes, CUBA Platform is JAVA based, but what is interesting are some of the innovative ways the architects and developers have come up with to create a very flexible and open-ended line of business development environment with existing opensource software.

I believe the innovative minds at YES Software have the capability to create a new very cutting edge LOB development application. :)





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Posted: 11/03/2017, 3:54 AM Quote message

Quote ccsminer:
Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.


That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development , they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results.

But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take atleast a couple of years of time now.

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Posted: 11/03/2017, 3:55 AM Quote message

Quote ccsminer:
Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.


That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development , they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results.

But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take atleast a couple of years of time now.

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Posted: 11/03/2017, 3:56 AM Quote message

Quote ccsminer:
Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.


That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development , they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results.

But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take atleast a couple of years of time now.

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Posted: 11/03/2017, 3:57 AM Quote message

Quote ccsminer:
Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.


That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development , they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results.

But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take atleast a couple of years of time now.

What is the impact of it on loading time ?
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Posted: 11/03/2017, 3:57 AM Quote message

Quote ccsminer:
Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.


That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development , they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results.

But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take atleast a couple of years of time now.

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Posted: 11/03/2017, 3:58 AM Quote message

Quote ccsminer:
Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.


That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development , they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results.

But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take atleast a couple of years of time now.

What is the impact of it on loading time ?
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Posted: 11/03/2017, 3:58 AM Quote message

Quote ccsminer:
Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.


That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development , they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results.

But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take atleast a couple of years of time now.

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Posted: 11/03/2017, 3:59 AM Quote message

Quote ccsminer:
Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.


That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development , they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results.

But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take atleast a couple of years of time now.

What is the impact of it on loading time ?
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That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online
https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development and in the tutorial they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results. But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take at least a couple of years of time now.
What is the impact of it on loading time?
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Posted: 11/03/2017, 4:01 AM Quote message

Quote ccsminer:
Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.


That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development , they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results.

But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take atleast a couple of years of time now.

What is the impact of it on loading time ?
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Posted: 11/13/2017, 10:03 AM Quote message

Quote shreya:
Quote ccsminer:
Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.


That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development , they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results.

But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take atleast a couple of years of time now.

What is the impact of it on loading time ?
Loading time (like other frameworks) is somewhat relative to application complexity.
However, CUBA Studio - unlike CCS - does not at this moment work with an existing populated MySQL DB.

After going through an online demo with a sales rep., ParaSQL appears leaps-and-bounds beyond other RAD frameworks on several levels:
https://www.parasql.com/
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Posted: 11/13/2017, 10:04 AM Quote message

Quote shreya:
Quote ccsminer:
Been looking at this true RAD development platform (also recommended by several prior members of this forum):
https://www.cuba-platform.com/

If the Research and Development team at Yes Software is still active, I would highly suggest taking at look at
what this exceptional development team has been able to do with a pure JAVA development environment.

Has anyone else been taking a look at, or had experience, with this framework?

It appears to be several light-years ahead of many tools out on the market that claim to be RAD line-of-business
development tools - this tool appears to deliver.


That was quite a helpful resource actually. I was referring to a tutorial online https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-android-development , they mentioned that RAD teams usually prefer such tools which produce effective results.

But I guess for it to become mainstream, it will take atleast a couple of years of time now.

What is the impact of it on loading time ?
Loading time (like other frameworks) is somewhat relative to application complexity.
However, CUBA Studio - unlike CCS - does not at this moment work with an existing populated MySQL DB.

After going through an online demo with a sales rep., ParaSQL appears leaps-and-bounds beyond other RAD frameworks on several levels:
https://www.parasql.com/
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kirchaj

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Posted: 11/13/2017, 1:09 PM Quote message

It does. But for my situation it's cost prohibitive.
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Posted: 11/14/2017, 1:32 PM Quote message

ParaSQL is the direction this whole web database application world is
going. May take a decade, but we'll all be there - no doubt.

Expect pricing to adjust accordingly as more applications are built that
build applications. I'd be quite surprised if Yes Software isn't already
working on something similar with their app. I'd happily pay $150/month
for a cloud-based CodeCharge Studio. $999/month for ParaSQL isn't
realistic for 99.9% of web developers.
ccsminer

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Posted: 11/15/2017, 8:29 AM Quote message

Quote DataDoIT:
ParaSQL is the direction this whole web database application world is
going. May take a decade, but we'll all be there - no doubt.

Expect pricing to adjust accordingly as more applications are built that
build applications. I'd be quite surprised if Yes Software isn't already
working on something similar with their app. I'd happily pay $150/month
for a cloud-based CodeCharge Studio. $999/month for ParaSQL isn't
realistic for 99.9% of web developers.

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Posted: 11/16/2017, 1:59 AM Quote message

In the meantime, it is extremely hard to beat CCS for building applications quickly that are way ahead of most web applications. What do you want to be able to do that CCS does not already do very very well?
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Posted: 11/16/2017, 2:00 AM Quote message

In the meantime, it is extremely hard to beat CCS for building applications quickly that are way ahead of most web applications. What do you want to be able to do that CCS does not already do very very well?
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Posted: 11/16/2017, 8:14 AM Quote message

Quote djgjohn:
In the meantime, it is extremely hard to beat CCS for building applications quickly that are way ahead of most web applications. What do you want to be able to do that CCS does not already do very very well?
As a line of business application, CCS is an excellent tool to rapidly prototype, develop and deploy business requirements - it's a very solid product.

Where it can be improved significantly - and the CCS engineers are most likely working on this already - is on the client-side - a more modern look with good responsiveness at different device resolutions.

In addition, the most current versions of PHP is not fully supported, as many users have already posted frequently about, and the most recent version of CCS Studio is just not stable.

With that said, I still really love the tool (using versions 3.2.x and 4.3.x), and look forward to future enhancements.
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Posted: 12/04/2017, 3:29 AM Quote message

I'd like to think they are too. Personally I'd like to understand the constraints that prevents it from running under wine and I'd lend some thought to redesigning .dll's, etc to work around it. I am not using Windows at all any more and so any coding I do by hand, I do however use the CCS functions set / MVC and do most stuff with AJAX posts and tbody rendering. I went this way as 1. I am totally addicted to Linux and 2. I am totally addicted to Linux. There are some functions in codecharge that will probably always break particularly when modifying the html directly introduces errors that cause out-of-sync with the ccs xml file, that's a given and not much can be done there. I could be wrong, CCS while running under dotnet2 appears to use it's own .dll's for copy and paste rather than passing the functions to Windows and receiving the responses. I am not sure if later versions of dotnet behave in this manner or otherwise. Suffice to say if this assumption is correct then memory management on cut/copy/paste could be good to re-engineer to increase the capacity of these operations and stop very large pages from 'falling over' during component/form/container/grid position moves,etc. Again, if this assumption was correct it would also appear then that CCS can't use write-behind caching to the hard drive and in instances where the kernel still pages to hard drive may be disconnected where cut/copy/paste is a function of that part of kernel addressed by .dll

If this all sounds like a mouthful it is !!!

VM's I hear some of you say !! Yeah, not quite the same....
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Posted: 12/04/2017, 3:31 AM Quote message

and another duplicate they should go from apache to nginx ?
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testing reply...
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deleting another duplicate
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