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mamboBROWN


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Posted: 08/20/2014, 8:10 AM

Hey everyone...mambobrown here. I have always been a fan of CCS and even though things seem to have slowed down a bit, I still feel that the community can have an positive impact on the company. One idea that I have is for us (the community) to create an open source project (of something that has not been done before) that could bring more attention to CCS. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Posted: 08/20/2014, 4:41 PM

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Vasiliy

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Posted: 08/21/2014, 10:05 PM

The idea is good, but windows-based IDE is a history.

Working on a project, similar to CCS.
Database driven with metabase that describes DB, UI and event handling in a DB.
Spent 4+ years. 5th edition.
Plenty of work left.
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mamboBROWN


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Posted: 08/22/2014, 7:30 AM

@ckroon, Thanks for your idea

@Vasiliy, I still think there is an opportunity here to do something that has a positive impact on CCS.

Please keep your ideas coming.
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cvboucher

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Posted: 08/25/2014, 9:56 AM

A little different slant on your idea that I think could breathe new life into CodeCharge is a set of templates for generating webapps that use the AngularJS framework (https://angularjs.org/). The webapps provide a great user experience and theoretically could be run through PhoneGap to create a native mobile app.

Craig
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jmcmillen

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Posted: 10/06/2014, 9:49 PM

Very cool. It would be fantastic to incorporate this using codecharge.With codecharge angularjs and artistister it would be a great rapid application platform. Could custom components be built by those interested to integrate them?
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Mango_Lier


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Posted: 10/07/2014, 9:29 AM

I have integrated Sencha (Desktop and Mobile) with CCS. It requires building new actions and code generation capabilities. I can build forms, grids, editable grids, trees all using CCS as backend and Sencha frontend using MVC design patterns
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solesz

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Posted: 10/09/2014, 6:29 AM

Mango_Lier

That sounds very interesting. Can you give more detail on it?

solesz
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Mango_Lier


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Posted: 10/09/2014, 12:07 PM

I have "Actions" to output form/grid data in JSON/XML format, then I have front end templates to look at the CCSObjectModel (XML) to generate Sencha Javascript objects. All this tied together with "Features" for Grid/Form.

It took a while to build it and I had to look into a lot of JS code included in CCS itself. Once you understand the CCS architecture you can do a lot of things unfortunately the SDK is of no help there.

Unfortunately I can't share the tools but I will try to post a video of the tools in action.
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leenux


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Posted: 10/15/2014, 5:02 AM

Hi Mango_lier,


That's cool. I can't wait your video. Hope you post it soon. Thank you.

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Mango_Lier


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Posted: 10/15/2014, 9:50 PM

Here you go, my Sencha Touch and Ext JS addins shown in video. The part is towards tail end of the video

https://www.dropbox.com/s/amb3ghwqy1r6wh4/ZNSVideo.mp4?dl=0
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leenux


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Posted: 10/15/2014, 11:28 PM

Hi Mango_Lier,

Thank you for your video. I work in Codecharge 5.1.1.18990. How to get plugin Bits2O ?? And how import it to codecharge 5.1.1.18990 ?? Your advice is very appreciated. Thank you.

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mamboBROWN


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Posted: 10/16/2014, 6:07 PM

Thx for all the ideas. Keep them coming.
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jmcmillen

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Posted: 10/18/2014, 12:19 PM

Thank you Mango. We really have some great minds here. I appreciate all of your ideas, Angular offers some great graphic possibilities. Take a look at this mindmap for example.

http://directivemaker.info/blog/2014/02/28/cytoscape-directive/

Other ideas for calendars and schedules take a look at Luxcal and fullcalendar.

You folks are the greatest in finding solutions.

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Mango_Lier


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Posted: 10/18/2014, 5:19 PM

Sencha supports Calendar and Schedule and I support it in my tools. The other possibility is Kendo UI. I don't have any experience in Angular.
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cvboucher

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Posted: 10/20/2014, 9:19 AM

The Ionic Framework (with AngularJS) also looks promising.

http://ionicframework.com/docs/components/

These apps can be run through Cordova/PhoneGap to build native iOS & Android mobile apps.

Craig
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cvboucher

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Posted: 10/20/2014, 9:19 AM

The Ionic Framework (with AngularJS) also looks promising.

http://ionicframework.com/docs/components/

These apps can be run through Cordova/PhoneGap to build native iOS & Android mobile apps.

Craig
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Waspman
Posted: 10/24/2014, 2:15 AM


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Posted: 10/24/2014, 2:21 AM

Quote Mango_Lier:
Here you go, my Sencha Touch and Ext JS addins shown in video. The part is towards tail end of the video

https://www.dropbox.com/s/amb3ghwqy1r6wh4/ZNSVideo.mp4?dl=0


Fantastic job man, much respect:)

I develop responsive web apps using Foundation from Zurb, but I have to pay someone else to convert it into an app. Lots of duplication and difficulties in trying to explain the CCS way. I've tried things like Application Craft and Alpha Anywhere(or whatever it's called), but they are a backward step in relation to CCS. I use v4 cos I don't need all the Artisteer stuff, but I would upgrade if v5 had the tools loaded that you use or there was a proper help file that showed how to do it.
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Mango_Lier


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Posted: 10/24/2014, 8:30 AM

Waspman,
The tools shown in the video are not part of CCS5. I developed these for my own use and they work in CCS3,CC4,CC5. Unfortunately I cannot share the tools but I am open to take on projects if you want to get anything done. Using my tools, I keep single backend code for static HTML, Phone and Tablet support. The business logic stays on the backend only presentation layer is move to the frontend.
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Waspman

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Posted: 10/28/2014, 3:25 AM

I've just read the post about possible other tools and it struck me that it would be a great idea if we could in some way bring together all the skills of the CCS community. We all seem to use CCS in different ways, which is part of it's strength, and we all have something to offer. @Mango_lier; you just offered to help and have a system ready built in CCS which I need to convert to an app. Could that be the core of the idea, CCS and the people that use it become connected. We share, support and pay each other. A CCS ecosystem?
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Waspman

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Posted: 10/28/2014, 3:27 AM

ML - i'll send you a brief based on what I need done:)
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Mango_Lier


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Posted: 10/28/2014, 2:49 PM

Waspman,
FYI, I only do work in PHP
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Waspman

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Posted: 10/29/2014, 3:46 AM

Quote Mango_Lier:
Waspman,
FYI, I only do work in PHP


So you can you publish a CCS created web app to a mobile app?

(not a wrapper BTW)
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gerrit


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Posted: 10/29/2014, 4:06 AM

hi,

you can make a website whit codecharge, and than you make a app whit xcode



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Waspman

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Posted: 10/29/2014, 9:05 AM

Quote gerrit:
hi,

you can make a website whit codecharge, and than you make a app whit xcode



Gerrit


You can make an app with lots of things, I just wanted to avoid duplicate development.

(xcode is just iOS I think, i need android as well.)
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Mango_Lier


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Posted: 10/29/2014, 9:18 AM

You can use PhoneGap or Cordova to package the application. The key is building backend with codecharge and building frontend using Javascript and then package the application using Cordova for iOS, Android or BB.
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Waspman

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Posted: 10/29/2014, 2:50 PM

Quote Mango_Lier:
You can use PhoneGap or Cordova to package the application. The key is building backend with codecharge and building frontend using Javascript and then package the application using Cordova for iOS, Android or BB.

Sounds like there is no direct route from CCS. I've done a simple javascript -> phonegap app. so it looks like that's the way to go then:)
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Mango_Lier


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Posted: 10/29/2014, 5:03 PM

The video above builds the backend (PHP) as well as frontend(Javascript) in CCS :-). One can test the mobile app in a browser, then with couple of additional config files the code can be packaged for iOS, Andy or even AdobeAIR

Currently I have to hand code the config files but down the line I will create proper hooks in CCS to generate the config files automatically.

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gerrit


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Posted: 10/30/2014, 2:44 AM

hi,

It sounds greet Mango_Lier, but works it olso if you have a compleet website and menu.
can you dont sell it aan yessoftware ? :-)
I think a lot of people have interests....


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